Ibn Bajja: An Independent Reader of the Republic, 2022
By: Josep Puig Montada
Title Ibn Bajja: An Independent Reader of the Republic
Type Book Section
Language English
Date 2022
Published in Plato's Republic in the Islamic Context. New Perspectives on Averroes's Commentary
Pages 40–66
Categories Ibn Bāǧǧa, Influence
Author(s) Josep Puig Montada
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Averroes (1126–98) wrote a commentary, or be’ur in the only extant Hebrew translation, on Plato's Republic that is the subject matter of the present anthology. He insists there that his aim is to present Plato's doctrines without provoking polemics and that the dialectical arguments are not necessary to the understanding of those doctrines. Just as he did in his epitome of, or short commentary on, Aristotle's Metaphysics, Averroes neither follows the strict order of the Greek original nor preserves the original division of books. While he gives his reasons for the rearrangement in the case of the Metaphysics, he does not give any for the Republic. Although Averroes's work follows Plato's text in many passages, the independent structure of the work fits better into an epitome than into a middle commentary. As for the Arabic translation he was reading, we know that it preserved the division into ten books but probably not the dialogue form, since Averroes never mentions the names of the figures participating in the dialogue. In the Republic, Socrates narrates in the first person, but in his commentary, Averroes give no hint of Socrates's peculiar role in that work; on the contrary, he presents Socrates only once, referring to him in the third person and mentioning that he held the belief that death is preferable to life without human dignity. Averroes lived two generations after Muḥammad ibn al-Ṣā̔igh Ibn Bājja (d. 1139; henceforth Ibn Bajja), who did not write a specific commentary on the Republic. But he did compose a treatise, titled the Governance of the Solitary, in which he deals with some of the political issues raised by Plato. There, as in some other works that we will discuss below, Ibn Bajja refers to the Republic and to the Phaedo. In this chapter the attempt will be made to reconstruct the influence of Plato's Republic on Ibn Bajja through his own texts, and incidentally, to learn about the text that Ibn Bajja was using.

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Les stades de la philosophie naturelle d'Averroès, 1997
By: Josep Puig Montada
Title Les stades de la philosophie naturelle d'Averroès
Type Article
Language Spanish
Date 1997
Journal Arabic Sciences and Philosophy
Volume 7
Pages 115–137
Categories Biography, Alexander of Aphrodisias, Themistius, Ibn Bāǧǧa
Author(s) Josep Puig Montada
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The stages in the development of Averroes' philosophy can be better defined by the revisions Averroes himself made of his works than by the traditional order of his commentaries (short, middle, long); such revisions often take the form of glosses. In his initial stages Averroes' opinions are influenced by the interpretations of Alexander of Aphrodisias and Themistius as well as Avempace. In his final stages, he departs from them and moves closer to Aristotle's original thought. Averroes' reading of the beginning of Physics, Book VIII is an exception: there he agrees with Aristotle in the first stage and moves away from him in the final stage, because he came to believe that Aristotle's purpose in this part of the book was to prove the eternity of heavenly movement. The explanation for the different reading of the introduction to the short commentary can be found in the persecution Averroes and other philosophers suffered in 1197, after which Averroes no longer declared philosophy to be the way to attain human perfection, and he only wanted to illuminate Aristotle's philosophy.

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De la influencia d'Avempace en Averrois, 1996
By: Josep Puig Montada
Title De la influencia d'Avempace en Averrois
Type Book Section
Language Spanish
Date 1996
Published in Actes del Simposi Internacional de Filosofia de l'Edat Mitjana. El pensament antropològic medieval en els àmbits islàmic, hebreu i cristià. Vic-Girona 11–16 d'abril de 1993
Pages 231–244
Categories Physics, Ibn Bāǧǧa
Author(s) Josep Puig Montada
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Ensayo sobre el pensamiento de Avempace y su repercusión en Averroes, 1996
By: Josep Puig Montada
Title Ensayo sobre el pensamiento de Avempace y su repercusión en Averroes
Type Article
Language Spanish
Date 1996
Journal Anaquel de estudios árabes
Volume 7
Pages 241–261
Categories Influence, Ibn Bāǧǧa
Author(s) Josep Puig Montada
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Un aspecto de la influencia de Avempace en Averroes, 1993
By: Josep Puig Montada
Title Un aspecto de la influencia de Avempace en Averroes
Type Article
Language Spanish
Date 1993
Journal Anaquel de estudios árabes
Volume 4
Pages 149–159
Categories Physics, Ibn Bāǧǧa
Author(s) Josep Puig Montada
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De la influencia d'Avempace en Averrois, 1996
By: Josep Puig Montada
Title De la influencia d'Avempace en Averrois
Type Book Section
Language Spanish
Date 1996
Published in Actes del Simposi Internacional de Filosofia de l'Edat Mitjana. El pensament antropològic medieval en els àmbits islàmic, hebreu i cristià. Vic-Girona 11–16 d'abril de 1993
Pages 231–244
Categories Physics, Ibn Bāǧǧa
Author(s) Josep Puig Montada
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Ensayo sobre el pensamiento de Avempace y su repercusión en Averroes, 1996
By: Josep Puig Montada
Title Ensayo sobre el pensamiento de Avempace y su repercusión en Averroes
Type Article
Language Spanish
Date 1996
Journal Anaquel de estudios árabes
Volume 7
Pages 241–261
Categories Influence, Ibn Bāǧǧa
Author(s) Josep Puig Montada
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Ibn Bajja: An Independent Reader of the Republic, 2022
By: Josep Puig Montada
Title Ibn Bajja: An Independent Reader of the Republic
Type Book Section
Language English
Date 2022
Published in Plato's Republic in the Islamic Context. New Perspectives on Averroes's Commentary
Pages 40–66
Categories Ibn Bāǧǧa, Influence
Author(s) Josep Puig Montada
Publisher(s)
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Averroes (1126–98) wrote a commentary, or be’ur in the only extant Hebrew translation, on Plato's Republic that is the subject matter of the present anthology. He insists there that his aim is to present Plato's doctrines without provoking polemics and that the dialectical arguments are not necessary to the understanding of those doctrines. Just as he did in his epitome of, or short commentary on, Aristotle's Metaphysics, Averroes neither follows the strict order of the Greek original nor preserves the original division of books. While he gives his reasons for the rearrangement in the case of the Metaphysics, he does not give any for the Republic. Although Averroes's work follows Plato's text in many passages, the independent structure of the work fits better into an epitome than into a middle commentary. As for the Arabic translation he was reading, we know that it preserved the division into ten books but probably not the dialogue form, since Averroes never mentions the names of the figures participating in the dialogue. In the Republic, Socrates narrates in the first person, but in his commentary, Averroes give no hint of Socrates's peculiar role in that work; on the contrary, he presents Socrates only once, referring to him in the third person and mentioning that he held the belief that death is preferable to life without human dignity. Averroes lived two generations after Muḥammad ibn al-Ṣā̔igh Ibn Bājja (d. 1139; henceforth Ibn Bajja), who did not write a specific commentary on the Republic. But he did compose a treatise, titled the Governance of the Solitary, in which he deals with some of the political issues raised by Plato. There, as in some other works that we will discuss below, Ibn Bajja refers to the Republic and to the Phaedo. In this chapter the attempt will be made to reconstruct the influence of Plato's Republic on Ibn Bajja through his own texts, and incidentally, to learn about the text that Ibn Bajja was using.

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Les stades de la philosophie naturelle d'Averroès, 1997
By: Josep Puig Montada
Title Les stades de la philosophie naturelle d'Averroès
Type Article
Language Spanish
Date 1997
Journal Arabic Sciences and Philosophy
Volume 7
Pages 115–137
Categories Biography, Alexander of Aphrodisias, Themistius, Ibn Bāǧǧa
Author(s) Josep Puig Montada
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The stages in the development of Averroes' philosophy can be better defined by the revisions Averroes himself made of his works than by the traditional order of his commentaries (short, middle, long); such revisions often take the form of glosses. In his initial stages Averroes' opinions are influenced by the interpretations of Alexander of Aphrodisias and Themistius as well as Avempace. In his final stages, he departs from them and moves closer to Aristotle's original thought. Averroes' reading of the beginning of Physics, Book VIII is an exception: there he agrees with Aristotle in the first stage and moves away from him in the final stage, because he came to believe that Aristotle's purpose in this part of the book was to prove the eternity of heavenly movement. The explanation for the different reading of the introduction to the short commentary can be found in the persecution Averroes and other philosophers suffered in 1197, after which Averroes no longer declared philosophy to be the way to attain human perfection, and he only wanted to illuminate Aristotle's philosophy.

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Un aspecto de la influencia de Avempace en Averroes, 1993
By: Josep Puig Montada
Title Un aspecto de la influencia de Avempace en Averroes
Type Article
Language Spanish
Date 1993
Journal Anaquel de estudios árabes
Volume 4
Pages 149–159
Categories Physics, Ibn Bāǧǧa
Author(s) Josep Puig Montada
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